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		<link>http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2009/02/18/lucida-hybrid-revisited/#comment-36660</link>
		<dc:creator>upload pictures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 10:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a pity you don&#039;t have a donate button! I&#039;d certainly donate to this excellent blog! I guess for now i&#039;ll settle for book-marking and adding your RSS feed to my Google account. I look forward to new updates and will talk about this website with my Facebook group. Talk soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a pity you don&#8217;t have a donate button! I&#8217;d certainly donate to this excellent blog! I guess for now i&#8217;ll settle for book-marking and adding your RSS feed to my Google account. I look forward to new updates and will talk about this website with my Facebook group. Talk soon!</p>
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		<title>By: Robbin Norseworthy</title>
		<link>http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2009/02/18/lucida-hybrid-revisited/#comment-36552</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbin Norseworthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 07:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great info once again! Thanks a lot:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great info once again! Thanks a lot:)</p>
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		<title>By: Brownspank</title>
		<link>http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2009/02/18/lucida-hybrid-revisited/#comment-33279</link>
		<dc:creator>Brownspank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info, nonetheless. It further proves my earlier suspicions of a poorly-hinted version of the font.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info, nonetheless. It further proves my earlier suspicions of a poorly-hinted version of the font.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2009/02/18/lucida-hybrid-revisited/#comment-33277</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right - looks like it is the peculiarities of the local setup on this machine. There are two different &quot;Lucida Sans&quot; installed on the system, and that&#039;s giving rise to the irregularity.

Sorry for the false alarm! There is still something curious going on, but that&#039;s not an issue for here. Appreciate your interest!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right &#8211; looks like it is the peculiarities of the local setup on this machine. There are two different &#8220;Lucida Sans&#8221; installed on the system, and that&#8217;s giving rise to the irregularity.</p>
<p>Sorry for the false alarm! There is still something curious going on, but that&#8217;s not an issue for here. Appreciate your interest!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks for taking a look. I tried your suggested code ... and everything looks fine. And I took it out again ... and it still looked fine! Mind you, I&#039;m on a different machine now (home vs. work), and I&#039;m guessing it&#039;s something specific to that machine I was on earlier. 

FWIW, my &quot;test page&quot; is here: http://bit.ly/b2kZIU

I&#039;ll double check tomorrow and confirm. I imagine the situation can&#039;t be helped by the highly similar names given to &lt;i&gt;slightly&lt;/i&gt; different fonts. (As your original article seemed to suggest!)

Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for taking a look. I tried your suggested code &#8230; and everything looks fine. And I took it out again &#8230; and it still looked fine! Mind you, I&#8217;m on a different machine now (home vs. work), and I&#8217;m guessing it&#8217;s something specific to that machine I was on earlier. </p>
<p>FWIW, my &#8220;test page&#8221; is here: <a href="http://bit.ly/b2kZIU" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/b2kZIU</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll double check tomorrow and confirm. I imagine the situation can&#8217;t be helped by the highly similar names given to <i>slightly</i> different fonts. (As your original article seemed to suggest!)</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Brownspank</title>
		<link>http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2009/02/18/lucida-hybrid-revisited/#comment-33274</link>
		<dc:creator>Brownspank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m unable to replicate your problem, unfortunately. But, I would like you to try something out, anyway:

&lt;code&gt;h3 {
font-family: &quot;Lucida Sans Demibold Italic&quot;, sans-serif;
font-style: italic;
font-weight: bold;
}&lt;/code&gt;

(Browsers seem to correctly interpret a specific font as being a part of its family. Not sure if it would work in your case, though.)

Incidentally, I noticed that as I was trying to create a font stack in Typetester.org, Lucida Sans was not displaying correctly in the browsers you mentioned. Firefox got it right, but all other browsers were only displaying the italic versions of the specified weights. Weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m unable to replicate your problem, unfortunately. But, I would like you to try something out, anyway:</p>
<p><code>h3 {<br />
font-family: "Lucida Sans Demibold Italic", sans-serif;<br />
font-style: italic;<br />
font-weight: bold;<br />
}</code></p>
<p>(Browsers seem to correctly interpret a specific font as being a part of its family. Not sure if it would work in your case, though.)</p>
<p>Incidentally, I noticed that as I was trying to create a font stack in Typetester.org, Lucida Sans was not displaying correctly in the browsers you mentioned. Firefox got it right, but all other browsers were only displaying the italic versions of the specified weights. Weird.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this article, and its predecessor, very interesting! I wonder if your testing brought up a Lucida Sans issue I&#039;m now encountering.

I&#039;m exploring the YUI css service, and defining my H1-H3 series using Lucida Sans, with h3 getting &quot;bold&quot; and &quot;italics&quot;. In Mozilla based browsers (ONLY Mozilla based browsers, I think), I get the lovely Lucida Sans bold italic. Otherwise, however, (Opera, Chrome, IE), I get a bolded slant face.

Why??!

I think I *might* know -- my system has &quot;lsansdi.ttf&quot; as the bold-italic Lucida Sans font ... but that is officially the &quot;Demibold Italic&quot;, not the &quot;Bold Italic&quot;. Could that be the reason some browsers don&#039;t &quot;see&quot; it?? And if it is ... how to deal with it?

For reference:

http://www.fonts.com/FindFonts/detail.htm?pid=242547

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this article, and its predecessor, very interesting! I wonder if your testing brought up a Lucida Sans issue I&#8217;m now encountering.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m exploring the YUI css service, and defining my H1-H3 series using Lucida Sans, with h3 getting &#8220;bold&#8221; and &#8220;italics&#8221;. In Mozilla based browsers (ONLY Mozilla based browsers, I think), I get the lovely Lucida Sans bold italic. Otherwise, however, (Opera, Chrome, IE), I get a bolded slant face.</p>
<p>Why??!</p>
<p>I think I *might* know &#8212; my system has &#8220;lsansdi.ttf&#8221; as the bold-italic Lucida Sans font &#8230; but that is officially the &#8220;Demibold Italic&#8221;, not the &#8220;Bold Italic&#8221;. Could that be the reason some browsers don&#8217;t &#8220;see&#8221; it?? And if it is &#8230; how to deal with it?</p>
<p>For reference:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fonts.com/FindFonts/detail.htm?pid=242547" rel="nofollow">http://www.fonts.com/FindFonts/detail.htm?pid=242547</a></p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just ran into this problem today with my blog which uses &quot;Lucida Sans&quot; as the primary font for body text. 
Now this is really, really weird: only in Firefox (3.5.8) on Windows Vista the font looks horribly bold and the italicized text looks awful (like it&#039;s going to fall over). Now, same version of Firefox but on Windows XP -and everything looks a-ok. 

Interestingly, this doesn&#039;t happen at all in Chrome, Safari, or IE -just Firefox. 
When I change the font to &quot;Lucida Sans Unicode&quot; -it renders fine.  
Strange...in any case I think I&#039;ll be ditching Lucida for another typeface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just ran into this problem today with my blog which uses &#8220;Lucida Sans&#8221; as the primary font for body text.<br />
Now this is really, really weird: only in Firefox (3.5.8) on Windows Vista the font looks horribly bold and the italicized text looks awful (like it&#8217;s going to fall over). Now, same version of Firefox but on Windows XP -and everything looks a-ok. </p>
<p>Interestingly, this doesn&#8217;t happen at all in Chrome, Safari, or IE -just Firefox.<br />
When I change the font to &#8220;Lucida Sans Unicode&#8221; -it renders fine.<br />
Strange&#8230;in any case I think I&#8217;ll be ditching Lucida for another typeface.</p>
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		<title>By: shamanyy</title>
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		<dc:creator>shamanyy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I see, the option seems needed to be considered. However partially agreed with your idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I see, the option seems needed to be considered. However partially agreed with your idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Brownspank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brownspank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 03:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-32664&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jon&lt;/a&gt;: It all boils down to the type of look you&#039;re going for (and to a lesser extent, your personal preferences). I use Lucida Sans as it is the closest match to Grande. Something like:

&lt;code&gt;font-family: &quot;Lucida Sans&quot;, &quot;Lucida Grande&quot;, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;&lt;/code&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-32664" rel="nofollow">Jon</a>: It all boils down to the type of look you&#8217;re going for (and to a lesser extent, your personal preferences). I use Lucida Sans as it is the closest match to Grande. Something like:</p>
<p><code>font-family: "Lucida Sans", "Lucida Grande", Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;</code></p>
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