Comments on: Lucida Hybrid: The ‘Grande’ Alternative http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/ Design wisdom in red and grey. Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:11:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: spindle http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/#comment-33070 spindle Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:05:31 +0000 http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/#comment-33070 *(Ditto) Joe Dolson *(Ditto) Joe Dolson

]]> By: Steven Jay Cohen http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/#comment-33044 Steven Jay Cohen Sat, 26 Dec 2009 14:45:58 +0000 http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/#comment-33044 Note: url(‘images/Lucida_Grande.ttf’) should be: url(images/Lucida_Grande.ttf) Sorry about that :) Note:
url(‘images/Lucida_Grande.ttf’)
should be:
url(images/Lucida_Grande.ttf)

Sorry about that :)

]]> By: Steven Jay Cohen http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/#comment-33043 Steven Jay Cohen Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:23:41 +0000 http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/#comment-33043 Thank you for this interesting discussion. With the advent of CSS3, we can use @font-face to attempt to embed Lucida Grande if not installed. However, since many browsers do not support this yet (and, some that do don't do a very good job of rendering yet), using your idea, in conjunction with @font-face seems the best solution. Code follows: @font-face { font-family: Lucida; src: url('images/Lucida_Grande.ttf') format('truetype'); font-weight: normal; } @font-face { font-family: Lucida; src: url('images/Lucida_Grande_Bold.ttf') format('truetype'); font-weight: bold; } body { font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Lucida, Corbel, 'DejaVu Sans', 'Bitstream Vera Sans', 'Liberation Sans', Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; } strong, em, b, i, h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6, address { font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans', Lucida, Corbel, 'DejaVu Sans', 'Bitstream Vera Sans', 'Liberation Sans', Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; } code, pre { font-family: 'Lucida Console', 'Andale Mono', Monaco, 'Courier New', Courier, monospace; } Thank you for this interesting discussion. With the advent of CSS3, we can use @font-face to attempt to embed Lucida Grande if not installed. However, since many browsers do not support this yet (and, some that do don’t do a very good job of rendering yet), using your idea, in conjunction with @font-face seems the best solution.

Code follows:

@font-face {
font-family: Lucida;
src: url(‘images/Lucida_Grande.ttf’) format(‘truetype’);
font-weight: normal;
}
@font-face {
font-family: Lucida;
src: url(‘images/Lucida_Grande_Bold.ttf’) format(‘truetype’);
font-weight: bold;
}

body {
font-family: ‘Lucida Grande’, ‘Lucida Sans Unicode’, Lucida, Corbel, ‘DejaVu Sans’, ‘Bitstream Vera Sans’, ‘Liberation Sans’, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
}
strong, em, b, i, h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6, address {
font-family: ‘Lucida Grande’, ‘Lucida Sans’, Lucida, Corbel, ‘DejaVu Sans’, ‘Bitstream Vera Sans’, ‘Liberation Sans’, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
}
code, pre {
font-family: ‘Lucida Console’, ‘Andale Mono’, Monaco, ‘Courier New’, Courier, monospace;
}

]]> By: Vitezslav Valka http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/#comment-32897 Vitezslav Valka Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:13:43 +0000 http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/#comment-32897 Lovely research :-) Thx. Lovely research :-) Thx.

]]> By: Ricardo http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/#comment-32896 Ricardo Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:49:57 +0000 http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/#comment-32896 My PC with Vista only has Lucida Sans Unicode, so the bold and italic parts are just.. Arial. My PC with Vista only has Lucida Sans Unicode, so the bold and italic parts are just.. Arial.

]]> By: Nathan W http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/#comment-32895 Nathan W Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:44:52 +0000 http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/#comment-32895 Lucida as a viable font face for website is complete garbage. Any visual impact you might get by choosing the font is completely offset by the amount of jiggery-pokery you have to do to get it to work properly. Even the most recent versions of Windows dont include the Grande version of the font, and Im yet to see a designer who actually knows how to implement the font properly. More mainstream fonts like Arial, Verdana etc at least work consistently every time, and produce readable text. Lucida as a viable font face for website is complete garbage. Any visual impact you might get by choosing the font is completely offset by the amount of jiggery-pokery you have to do to get it to work properly.

Even the most recent versions of Windows dont include the Grande version of the font, and Im yet to see a designer who actually knows how to implement the font properly.

More mainstream fonts like Arial, Verdana etc at least work consistently every time, and produce readable text.

]]> By: Jason http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/#comment-32765 Jason Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:34:10 +0000 http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/#comment-32765 Great post. Thank you Great post. Thank you

]]> By: Joomla Theme Creator http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/#comment-32681 Joomla Theme Creator Mon, 11 May 2009 02:26:33 +0000 http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/#comment-32681 Joomla is a top notch CMS and this post is a perfect example why. Thank you for this information. Joomla is a top notch CMS and this post is a perfect example why. Thank you for this information.

]]> By: Brownspank http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/#comment-32670 Brownspank Thu, 07 May 2009 02:58:26 +0000 http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/#comment-32670 @<a href="#comment-32659" rel="nofollow">Jon</a>: You could do that, though depending on the types and versions of browsers your site supports, you'll have to assign a class to each textbox input element to be able to target them effectively in IE6 (as it doesn't support attribute selectors). @Jon: You could do that, though depending on the types and versions of browsers your site supports, you’ll have to assign a class to each textbox input element to be able to target them effectively in IE6 (as it doesn’t support attribute selectors).

]]> By: Jon http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/#comment-32659 Jon Wed, 06 May 2009 08:25:29 +0000 http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2007/03/14/lucida-hybrid-the-grande-alternative/#comment-32659 I have a question relating to Jonathan Schofield’s idea of putting Lucida Grande first then falling back to the others for Windows users. You said that there is a textbox width issue when using it. Could you then not change the textbox font to Arial or similar so you have font for main contnent, font for bold & italic and font for inputs? I have a question relating to Jonathan Schofield’s idea of putting Lucida Grande first then falling back to the others for Windows users. You said that there is a textbox width issue when using it. Could you then not change the textbox font to Arial or similar so you have font for main contnent, font for bold & italic and font for inputs?

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