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	<title>Comments on: (There Is Hardship) Beyond Arial &#038; Verdana</title>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;ll Never Fly &#187; Site Update: Stylesheet and Fonts</title>
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		<dc:creator>It&#8217;ll Never Fly &#187; Site Update: Stylesheet and Fonts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 02:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] certain OSs or applications at certain times, and some look like utter crap. But I&#8217;ve done my research, and I think I&#8217;ve chosen the best option that screws all people equally (maybe the Windows [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] certain OSs or applications at certain times, and some look like utter crap. But I&#8217;ve done my research, and I think I&#8217;ve chosen the best option that screws all people equally (maybe the Windows [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brownspank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brownspank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 04:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-14553" rel="nofollow"&gt;David:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; thanks for pointing that out. Is there something similar that would allow you to install Mac's core fonts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="#comment-14553" rel="nofollow">David:</a></strong> thanks for pointing that out. Is there something similar that would allow you to install Mac&#8217;s core fonts?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 20:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>xsism: You can easily (and legally) install the 'web core fonts' on Linux. For Ubuntu, just install the 'msttcorefonts' package.

As for other fonts, any TrueType fonts that you legally had under Windows, you should be able to use on Linux as well, unless for some perverse reason the licence prohibits this (which I really wouldn't put past M$ to do these days..).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>xsism: You can easily (and legally) install the &#8216;web core fonts&#8217; on Linux. For Ubuntu, just install the &#8216;msttcorefonts&#8217; package.</p>
<p>As for other fonts, any TrueType fonts that you legally had under Windows, you should be able to use on Linux as well, unless for some perverse reason the licence prohibits this (which I really wouldn&#8217;t put past M$ to do these days..).</p>
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		<title>By: Brownspank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brownspank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 06:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;xsism:&lt;/strong&gt; My experience with fonts on Linux is severely limited, but from what I saw so far, the &lt;strong&gt;DejaVu&lt;/strong&gt; family of fonts looks like a good fallback set.

As for image replacement techniques, I do use them too, but only for headings and menu items.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>xsism:</strong> My experience with fonts on Linux is severely limited, but from what I saw so far, the <strong>DejaVu</strong> family of fonts looks like a good fallback set.</p>
<p>As for image replacement techniques, I do use them too, but only for headings and menu items.</p>
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		<title>By: xsism</title>
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		<dc:creator>xsism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 23:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What abou Linux? I've recently isntalledubuntu as my main OS as opposed to the old winXP setup. It doesn't have many commercial fonts for obvious reasons.

I've found inline font replacement with CSS background images works wonders and doesn't seem to negatively affect SEO.

FYI, the only thing I msis from winXP is gmail app for file transfer in IMs, CounterStrike Source, and my business NetZero Voice app(it's on mac and win32 only). Everything else for design is easilly available on Linux. Yay :) There's something special about giving back to the community by offering my support to new users. It's just neat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What abou Linux? I&#8217;ve recently isntalledubuntu as my main OS as opposed to the old winXP setup. It doesn&#8217;t have many commercial fonts for obvious reasons.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found inline font replacement with CSS background images works wonders and doesn&#8217;t seem to negatively affect SEO.</p>
<p>FYI, the only thing I msis from winXP is gmail app for file transfer in IMs, CounterStrike Source, and my business NetZero Voice app(it&#8217;s on mac and win32 only). Everything else for design is easilly available on Linux. Yay :) There&#8217;s something special about giving back to the community by offering my support to new users. It&#8217;s just neat.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Eastwell</title>
		<link>http://www.brownbatterystudios.com/sixthings/2006/09/26/there-is-hardship-beyond-arial-verdana/comment-page-1/#comment-2569</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Eastwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 08:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look forward to hearing your findings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to hearing your findings.</p>
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		<title>By: Brownspank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brownspank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 09:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, &lt;a href="#comment-2545" rel="nofollow"&gt;Dan&lt;/a&gt;. Habit and convention have taught me to always design with the developer in mind, which is one of my reasons for looking into alternative fonts for the web. In a few months' time, i'll be revisiting this experiment in time for Windows Vista's release, and the new set of default fonts that come with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, <a href="#comment-2545" rel="nofollow">Dan</a>. Habit and convention have taught me to always design with the developer in mind, which is one of my reasons for looking into alternative fonts for the web. In a few months&#8217; time, i&#8217;ll be revisiting this experiment in time for Windows Vista&#8217;s release, and the new set of default fonts that come with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Eastwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Eastwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 16:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting an article on web typography that explores the alternatives to the default three. It's good to have an article that is pitched neatly, too, in that midspace between designer and interface developer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting an article on web typography that explores the alternatives to the default three. It&#8217;s good to have an article that is pitched neatly, too, in that midspace between designer and interface developer.</p>
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